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	<title>Comments on: The Euston Manifesto</title>
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		<title>By: The Euston Manifesto&#8217;s real-world launch (at wongaBlog)</title>
		<link>http://wongablog.co.uk/2006/04/13/euston-manifesto/#comment-3615</link>
		<dc:creator>The Euston Manifesto&#8217;s real-world launch (at wongaBlog)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 May 2006 17:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Euston Manifesto has its &#8216;real-world&#8217; launch this evening. I&#8217;m not on the official list of supporting blogs - I don&#8217;t think they need the latest Superman news appearing on their &#8216;recent posts&#8217; list - but am a signatory, and proud of it. I&#8217;ve been following the debate since its launch, and have heard nothing that makes me doubt my original thoughts. It fits in very well with the skeptical, humanist values I try to live my life by, and I encourage you to give it a look. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The Euston Manifesto has its &#8216;real-world&#8217; launch this evening. I&#8217;m not on the official list of supporting blogs - I don&#8217;t think they need the latest Superman news appearing on their &#8216;recent posts&#8217; list - but am a signatory, and proud of it. I&#8217;ve been following the debate since its launch, and have heard nothing that makes me doubt my original thoughts. It fits in very well with the skeptical, humanist values I try to live my life by, and I encourage you to give it a look. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: david clayton</title>
		<link>http://wongablog.co.uk/2006/04/13/euston-manifesto/#comment-3614</link>
		<dc:creator>david clayton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Apr 2006 16:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>look pootergeek why dont you try arguing instead of being smug. This might be some abstract political debate to you, but there are areas of England where this stupid war has a serious impact and leaves many people feeling that the British State is against them. And again I say, this may well be justified but I cannot see any good reason for it and you don't seem to be able to suggest any. Go on have a try, its called debate and it can be interesting.

happy monday

david</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>look pootergeek why dont you try arguing instead of being smug. This might be some abstract political debate to you, but there are areas of England where this stupid war has a serious impact and leaves many people feeling that the British State is against them. And again I say, this may well be justified but I cannot see any good reason for it and you don&#8217;t seem to be able to suggest any. Go on have a try, its called debate and it can be interesting.</p>
<p>happy monday</p>
<p>david</p>
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		<title>By: Neil Harding</title>
		<link>http://wongablog.co.uk/2006/04/13/euston-manifesto/#comment-3613</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil Harding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Apr 2006 00:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clever and funny you may be Mr PooterGeek, but David Clayton is right on this one.

It is possible you know to condemn both anti-Americanism AND condemn Bush's war for oil.

I agree with the affirmation of secularism, universal human rights etc. if only to remind those on the left who defend dodgy regimes just because they are in ideological agreement with them. But you have to be careful you are not doing the same with your defence of US policies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clever and funny you may be Mr PooterGeek, but David Clayton is right on this one.</p>
<p>It is possible you know to condemn both anti-Americanism AND condemn Bush&#8217;s war for oil.</p>
<p>I agree with the affirmation of secularism, universal human rights etc. if only to remind those on the left who defend dodgy regimes just because they are in ideological agreement with them. But you have to be careful you are not doing the same with your defence of US policies.</p>
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		<title>By: PooterGeek</title>
		<link>http://wongablog.co.uk/2006/04/13/euston-manifesto/#comment-3612</link>
		<dc:creator>PooterGeek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Apr 2006 18:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You might find this hard to believe, but I swear to God that I didn't invent the comment above in an effort to bolster the case for the Manifesto. These people just fisk themselves. How can we fail when this the quality of the opposition? Marvellous :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You might find this hard to believe, but I swear to God that I didn&#8217;t invent the comment above in an effort to bolster the case for the Manifesto. These people just fisk themselves. How can we fail when this the quality of the opposition? Marvellous <img src='http://wongablog.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: david clayton</title>
		<link>http://wongablog.co.uk/2006/04/13/euston-manifesto/#comment-3611</link>
		<dc:creator>david clayton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Apr 2006 22:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Euston manifesto...... too undemocratic to take comments on their own sites and too clueless to see the econtradiction between being "left wing" and supporting Bush's war for oil. As a rough guide to how to avoid being bamboozled every time somebody invites you to support torture, illegal imprisonment, bombing civilians, and all the rest of the nonsense that has been going on in Iraq, have a really big think. It might be justified......but to do all that there had better be a VERY good reason. And when they are inviting you to do the same trick in Iran you will really need that thinking cap.

happy thursday

david clayton</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Euston manifesto&#8230;&#8230; too undemocratic to take comments on their own sites and too clueless to see the econtradiction between being &#8220;left wing&#8221; and supporting Bush&#8217;s war for oil. As a rough guide to how to avoid being bamboozled every time somebody invites you to support torture, illegal imprisonment, bombing civilians, and all the rest of the nonsense that has been going on in Iraq, have a really big think. It might be justified&#8230;&#8230;but to do all that there had better be a VERY good reason. And when they are inviting you to do the same trick in Iran you will really need that thinking cap.</p>
<p>happy thursday</p>
<p>david clayton</p>
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		<title>By: Bloggers4Labour</title>
		<link>http://wongablog.co.uk/2006/04/13/euston-manifesto/#comment-3610</link>
		<dc:creator>Bloggers4Labour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Apr 2006 12:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the thoughtful (as ever) post, Andrew, and for the ideas - I'm sure we can use them (the FAQ was something we did think of, but we ran out of time before really getting to grips with it).

We're definitely looking to add a good crop of bloggers to our list/aggregation, so if you fancy joining that list, just give me a shout.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the thoughtful (as ever) post, Andrew, and for the ideas - I&#8217;m sure we can use them (the FAQ was something we did think of, but we ran out of time before really getting to grips with it).</p>
<p>We&#8217;re definitely looking to add a good crop of bloggers to our list/aggregation, so if you fancy joining that list, just give me a shout.</p>
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		<title>By: PooterGeek</title>
		<link>http://wongablog.co.uk/2006/04/13/euston-manifesto/#comment-3609</link>
		<dc:creator>PooterGeek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Apr 2006 11:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the link and your generous, positive, and constructive criticism. As you can imagine, I'm having a busy day today, but I have noted your very sensible suggestions for improvements and they will be acted upon.

On the practical point of how you as an individual can sign, just click on the "Sign" link on the menu bar and fill out the form.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link and your generous, positive, and constructive criticism. As you can imagine, I&#8217;m having a busy day today, but I have noted your very sensible suggestions for improvements and they will be acted upon.</p>
<p>On the practical point of how you as an individual can sign, just click on the &#8220;Sign&#8221; link on the menu bar and fill out the form.</p>
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