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	<description>like balloons, only with dancing</description>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://wongablog.co.uk/2005/05/31/making-poverty-history/#comment-1756</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jun 2005 15:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[checks]

Nope, they all appear to be here. I see 'official', what else?</description>
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<p>Nope, they all appear to be here. I see &#8216;official&#8217;, what else?</p>
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		<title>By: Lynsey</title>
		<link>http://wongablog.co.uk/2005/05/31/making-poverty-history/#comment-1755</link>
		<dc:creator>Lynsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jun 2005 15:00:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No offence, but have you lost a finger?! All of a sudden you're missing letters out all over the place! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No offence, but have you lost a finger?! All of a sudden you&#8217;re missing letters out all over the place! <img src='http://wongablog.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://wongablog.co.uk/2005/05/31/making-poverty-history/#comment-1754</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2005 11:59:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Had to happen :-)

I refer you to the &lt;a href="http://www.400monkeys.com/God/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Offical God FAQ&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Had to happen <img src='http://wongablog.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
I refer you to the <a href="http://www.400monkeys.com/God/" rel="nofollow">Offical God FAQ</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Lynsey</title>
		<link>http://wongablog.co.uk/2005/05/31/making-poverty-history/#comment-1753</link>
		<dc:creator>Lynsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2005 11:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just thought!

- I bet God knows ;-)</description>
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<p>- I bet God knows <img src='http://wongablog.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Lynsey</title>
		<link>http://wongablog.co.uk/2005/05/31/making-poverty-history/#comment-1752</link>
		<dc:creator>Lynsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2005 11:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>'Tis most tricky, and I don't pretend to have the answers cos I ain't got a clue what the solution should be :-) ... Ooh we're agreeing on something for once :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Tis most tricky, and I don&#8217;t pretend to have the answers cos I ain&#8217;t got a clue what the solution should be <img src='http://wongablog.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> &#8230; Ooh we&#8217;re agreeing on something for once <img src='http://wongablog.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://wongablog.co.uk/2005/05/31/making-poverty-history/#comment-1751</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2005 09:35:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, I agree that science and morality are entirely separate. It does indeed get very very difficult to say what "should" be done in situations, as I think we're showing :-)

I'd be very interested to read that, it sounds fascinating.

Fair enough - I won't argue with an environmental science graduate about the environment :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, I agree that science and morality are entirely separate. It does indeed get very very difficult to say what &#8220;should&#8221; be done in situations, as I think we&#8217;re showing <img src='http://wongablog.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
I&#8217;d be very interested to read that, it sounds fascinating.</p>
<p>Fair enough - I won&#8217;t argue with an environmental science graduate about the environment <img src='http://wongablog.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Lynsey</title>
		<link>http://wongablog.co.uk/2005/05/31/making-poverty-history/#comment-1750</link>
		<dc:creator>Lynsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2005 08:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...And with regards to the UN - whether countries can go against its wishes or ignore it completely ... wasn't an effective organisation in terms of the Iraq war.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;And with regards to the UN - whether countries can go against its wishes or ignore it completely &#8230; wasn&#8217;t an effective organisation in terms of the Iraq war.</p>
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		<title>By: Lynsey</title>
		<link>http://wongablog.co.uk/2005/05/31/making-poverty-history/#comment-1749</link>
		<dc:creator>Lynsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2005 08:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My point was that morality is a human concept - so what may be 'morally right' isn't necessarily scientifically sound. And that it would be irresponsible to encourage something to happen without considering its long-term implications.

I can't remember the bloke's name, but someone of importance within the scientific community recently said that we need the pick *the* most important issue facing the world over the next century and focus efforts into that - more effective than trying to solve everything. Will try and look up his name :-)

And climate change *is* affecting people *now* - I read in New Scientist last week that Argentina is experiencing a 30% reduction in electricity generation due to changing rainfall patterns. And there are signs of ecosystem stress everywhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My point was that morality is a human concept - so what may be &#8216;morally right&#8217; isn&#8217;t necessarily scientifically sound. And that it would be irresponsible to encourage something to happen without considering its long-term implications.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t remember the bloke&#8217;s name, but someone of importance within the scientific community recently said that we need the pick *the* most important issue facing the world over the next century and focus efforts into that - more effective than trying to solve everything. Will try and look up his name <img src='http://wongablog.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
And climate change *is* affecting people *now* - I read in New Scientist last week that Argentina is experiencing a 30% reduction in electricity generation due to changing rainfall patterns. And there are signs of ecosystem stress everywhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Lil</title>
		<link>http://wongablog.co.uk/2005/05/31/making-poverty-history/#comment-1748</link>
		<dc:creator>Lil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jun 2005 21:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Lynsey that it would negatively contribute to environmental issues - but on the other hand there's no way the countries can consider taking action with regards to climate change etc. (beyond using even more wild land for crops and resources!) while they're suffering from disease and famine.

If only there was an easy way to reverse the world population growth rate! It would solve pretty much every problem going ;) Disease and starvation are natural ways of controlling population size - if we can get rid of them totally, we have to take the responsibility ourselves (I hasten to add that here I'm thinking more '1 child policy' than 'annual deer cull' ;)..)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Lynsey that it would negatively contribute to environmental issues - but on the other hand there&#8217;s no way the countries can consider taking action with regards to climate change etc. (beyond using even more wild land for crops and resources!) while they&#8217;re suffering from disease and famine.</p>
<p>If only there was an easy way to reverse the world population growth rate! It would solve pretty much every problem going <img src='http://wongablog.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> Disease and starvation are natural ways of controlling population size - if we can get rid of them totally, we have to take the responsibility ourselves (I hasten to add that here I&#8217;m thinking more &#8216;1 child policy&#8217; than &#8216;annual deer cull&#8217; ;)..)</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://wongablog.co.uk/2005/05/31/making-poverty-history/#comment-1747</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jun 2005 15:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That's undoubtedly true, but what's your point? We can't let people suffer just because there are too many people on the planet.

The UN has many major successes in terms of preventing wars, negotating treaties and getting countries to talk to each other. Nuclear proliferation is a good example. The US and UK circumvented the UN by not asking permission, which is different from going against its wishes.

But I was just using the UN as an example of a multitasking organisation. Companies, governments, trade unions...all these groups can (and do) do more than one thing at once, and just because something isn't number one priority doesn't mean it isn't important. Things just aren't that linear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s undoubtedly true, but what&#8217;s your point? We can&#8217;t let people suffer just because there are too many people on the planet.</p>
<p>The UN has many major successes in terms of preventing wars, negotating treaties and getting countries to talk to each other. Nuclear proliferation is a good example. The US and UK circumvented the UN by not asking permission, which is different from going against its wishes.</p>
<p>But I was just using the UN as an example of a multitasking organisation. Companies, governments, trade unions&#8230;all these groups can (and do) do more than one thing at once, and just because something isn&#8217;t number one priority doesn&#8217;t mean it isn&#8217;t important. Things just aren&#8217;t that linear.</p>
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